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G Farris
November 24th 04, 09:12 AM
VFR this time.
The French Aviation Authority publishes really excellent VFR approach plates.
They are very serious about it - the revision cycles are monthly, and the
level of detail and accuracy is impressive.
Nevertheless, there is one airport I don't really want to fly into.
Something foreboding about it . . .
http://faris.nerim.net/Bale.jpg
Doug
November 24th 04, 03:41 PM
And just what would that be? I mean it's an airport. People land
airplanes there. They don't put airports where you CAN'T land an
airplane. Foreboding? Like it's jinxed or something?
(G Farris) wrote in message >...
> VFR this time.
> The French Aviation Authority publishes really excellent VFR approach plates.
> They are very serious about it - the revision cycles are monthly, and the
> level of detail and accuracy is impressive.
>
> Nevertheless, there is one airport I don't really want to fly into.
> Something foreboding about it . . .
>
> http://faris.nerim.net/Bale.jpg
Jose
November 24th 04, 03:50 PM
>>> Nevertheless, there is one airport I don't really want to fly into.
>>> Something foreboding about it . . .
>>>
>>> http://faris.nerim.net/Bale.jpg
> And just what would that be? I mean it's an airport...
I think he was referring to the coffin-like shape of the airport symbol.
Jose
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Icebound
November 24th 04, 03:55 PM
"G Farris" > wrote in message
...
> VFR this time.
> The French Aviation Authority publishes really excellent VFR approach
> plates.
> They are very serious about it - the revision cycles are monthly, and the
> level of detail and accuracy is impressive.
>
> Nevertheless, there is one airport I don't really want to fly into.
> Something foreboding about it . . .
>
> http://faris.nerim.net/Bale.jpg
>
Nice plates... they don't indicate the runway directions on these plates
though, nor right-or-left-pattern requirements??? One would think
right-hand for rwy 16?
This should be a piece of cake :-) lots of visual cues :-)
What does the red target at about 1.4 DME BLM VOR represent? I am supposing
not a hazard since there is no height shown???
Paul Tomblin
November 24th 04, 04:05 PM
In a previous article, "Icebound" > said:
>"G Farris" > wrote in message
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>>
>> http://faris.nerim.net/Bale.jpg
>>
>
>Nice plates... they don't indicate the runway directions on these plates
>though, nor right-or-left-pattern requirements??? One would think
>right-hand for rwy 16?
Look at what's showing through the thin paper - it looks like a very
detailed airport diagram below it.
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G Farris
November 24th 04, 04:55 PM
In article >,
says...
>
>Look at what's showing through the thin paper - it looks like a very
>detailed airport diagram below it.
>
>
...
>>>
>>> http://faris.nerim.net/Bale.jpg
>>>
>>
>>Nice plates... they don't indicate the runway directions on these plates
>>though, nor right-or-left-pattern requirements??? One would think
>>right-hand for rwy 16?
>
>Look at what's showing through the thin paper - it looks like a very
>detailed airport diagram below it.
YEP! Better visual perception than some contributors here!
If you want to see the other five pages of the document(!) you can look here :
http://www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv.fr/aip/enligne/METROPOLE/AIP/VAC/B/VAC%20A
D%202.LFSB.pdf
I only published it because I've always been amused by the coffin and cross
appearance of it. Not to everyone's bemusement, I guess.
The red dot is not an obstacle, but a restricted area. It's explained in the
text.Not all airports in France get six full pages of VFR approach
information. Many have just one page - two sides, but the information is
pretty complete and well presented.
On the down side, the French charts, 1/1,000,000 and 1/500,000, equaivlents to
WAC's and sectionals, though well made, containg less navigational information
than the US counterparts. You don't get runway lengths and pattern
indications, which means you "must" have another source of information. In the
US, it is possible to operate safely to a VFR airport with nothing but a
sectional.
G Faris
>
C J Campbell
November 24th 04, 05:21 PM
Gives new meaning to the term "coffin corner."
Jay Somerset
November 25th 04, 03:52 AM
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:12:40 +0000 (UTC), (G Farris) wrote:
> VFR this time.
> The French Aviation Authority publishes really excellent VFR approach plates.
> They are very serious about it - the revision cycles are monthly, and the
> level of detail and accuracy is impressive.
>
> Nevertheless, there is one airport I don't really want to fly into.
> Something foreboding about it . . .
Why? Just because the primary airport (Bale) looks like a coffin with a
cross on top of it?
>
> http://faris.nerim.net/Bale.jpg
Chris
November 25th 04, 05:44 PM
"Jay Somerset" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:12:40 +0000 (UTC), (G Farris)
> wrote:
>
>> VFR this time.
>> The French Aviation Authority publishes really excellent VFR approach
>> plates.
>> They are very serious about it - the revision cycles are monthly, and the
>> level of detail and accuracy is impressive.
>>
>> Nevertheless, there is one airport I don't really want to fly into.
>> Something foreboding about it . . .
>
> Why? Just because the primary airport (Bale) looks like a coffin with a
> cross on top of it?
where is your sense of humour?
Jay Somerset
November 26th 04, 10:35 PM
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:44:35 -0000, "Chris" > wrote:
>
> "Jay Somerset" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:12:40 +0000 (UTC), (G Farris)
> > wrote:
> >
> >> VFR this time.
> >> The French Aviation Authority publishes really excellent VFR approach
> >> plates.
> >> They are very serious about it - the revision cycles are monthly, and the
> >> level of detail and accuracy is impressive.
> >>
> >> Nevertheless, there is one airport I don't really want to fly into.
> >> Something foreboding about it . . .
> >
> > Why? Just because the primary airport (Bale) looks like a coffin with a
> > cross on top of it?
>
> where is your sense of humour?
Alive and well, obviously. :-)
>
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